Lay it all out!

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But you believe that god MADE you. IT MADE YOU PREDETERMINED TO BE GOOD OR EVIL.
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I do rather think that this thread does demonstrate the various approaches to this question clearly and succinctly.
And re: Omz Homz, I was trying not to be rude, but the definition of free will is that our actions are NOT predetermined. If you have another definition please give it and I can help you. The logical proof is A =/= NotA. I apologise if I was not clear enough before.
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NASA also use mean surface temperature anomalies to "prove" man made climate change based on co2.... Takes its baseline from 1880-1910.... Records differences mainly in urban areas...
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NASA are uber normies. Not much it turns out. Do you how many lives have been lost due to their incompetence? Also, they are the advocates for MSTAs! Most clearly quack science ever put forwards!
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you are mistaking AR plate for this crappy structural grade steel.
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Sep 10, 2017
This is why I have distaste for the religious, always trying to belittle others with their moral pretensions. Keep yourself to yourself, dude. Refute him if you like, or leave alone. Do not try to police areas that are not your own (such as your house).
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ehhh, that is how "god made us" free from original sin, not eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. If you believe that stuff. But certainly I think there is way more to life than a black and white good and evil approach. Life is stimulating enough without good or evil happening to me. If you think everything is good and evil, you have a very wide definition.
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Genetix, they have that one, that is what eternal punishment is meant for.
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Evil is simply things that affect humans in a negative way. Anything else is religious nonsense.
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It is a heinous sin to know what good is, by god's own instructions. Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Without evil, and without good, children will be born without original sin.
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Which god? please define it first, it is very important to the likelyhood or even possibility of what you are saying.
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The ones who believe in magic invisible friends get to set the standard of evil, and tell us their friend told them so that makes it better.
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Atheism is the lack in a belief in a diety, NOT knowledge of the lack of existence of a god.
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It is kind of the definition of predeterminism and free will, they are by definition mutually exclusive:
"Predeterminism is the idea that all events are determined in advance. Predeterminism is the philosophy that all events of history, past, present and future, have been already decided or are already known (by God, fate, or some other force), including human actions.
In the case of predeterminism, this chain of events has been pre-established, and human actions cannot interfere with the outcomes of this pre-established chain."
"Free Will: freedom of humans to make choices that are not determined by prior causes or by divine intervention"
Feel free to ask any more questions, but feel free to explain what you believe these terms to mean if you think differently. But to me, you are asking me to prove A =/= notA.
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Some people believe truly do believe.
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Good = events to the betterment of humans as a species and individuals
Evil = likewise, but to the detriment
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You must not be religious. Everything in their world view is caused by angels and demons. Good and evil. That is all.
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Necessary evil? No evil is necessary. Lack of evil is better than all the good possible.
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God has no part in atheist philosphy hhahaha. Or any philosophy really, especially if you want to judge good and bad independent of a god's wisdom.
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Praise be upon him? Because a just god would destroy itself. An all powerful ruler who watches you when you sleep is inherently evil, abhorrent and unjustified.
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Good would not need to exist if there was no evil. That is not a bad thing. Good in the absence of evil is unnecessary, albeit impossible. Good is not a state to strive for, lack of evil is. This line of thinking would have you commit atrocities so that you can help a victim out.
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Atheist = someone who does not believe in god.
Agnostic = someone who is in denial about being an atheist, as they believe in a god as much as a flying spaghetti monster or universe creating pixies or a teapot in orbit around saturn.

Call yourself what you want though, It just seems to most people to mean "I'm an atheist, but not like those atheists, because I will pretend to take your invisible unicorn story seriously. I can't KNOW you are lying after all, as I don't believe in inference or the scientific method"

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It has to be "Natural Evil" because in the religious minds, every act of nature is an act of magic ghosts interfering in the lives of man.
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This is not the true problem of evil at all, it is a watered down version you can refute.

The real problem of evil is as follows. If god is all knowing, and can know the future, then the future is predetermined. If the future is predetermined then we have no real ability to perform moral actions, right or wrong (free will). Therefore we are potentially predetermined to eternal torture, and life has no meaning. If we do have free will, a god could not possibly be all knowing.

Of course, even the idea of a creator god is not worthwhile. If the universe is too complicated to come into existence by itself, it must instead have been made by something of similar complexity... then how was that god made? If that god can have always existed why not the universe, etc etc.

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The monarchy is there so when the next tyrant rears his or her ugly head, we can go "we've already got one thank you"
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